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A Conversation with Margaret White Cloud

Margaret White Cloud lectures on Native American spirituality and works as a psychic and spiritual counselor. White Cloud, who was raised in Etna and is one-quarter Chippewa Indian, also is a self-described "Dr. Doolittle" who acts as a pet psychic...

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Do people come to you because their pets are unwell, or because they're curious what their pets are thinking?

It's about 50-50. And when people say they're there for a pet problem, 95 percent of the time they're there for their own problem and the pet was the spirit guide that got them there.

 

So what will such people say they've brought their dog in for?

"Fluffy's not eating. I don't know what's wrong. The vet can't find it out, lada lada lada." Then Fluffy talks about their child that died last month. Or Fluffy talks about the divorce last year.

 

So Fluffy will bring this up and the person might not have hinted at these family issues at all?

Yes. What happens, and you can see why one must use this force judiciously, is that I must be there as a healer and as the highest, credible counselor, to say, "Mrs. Jones, your dog is telling me you had a death in the family last month and one of the reasons Fluffy isn't eating is there's a lot of sorrow -- would you like to talk about that?" People are baring their soul. They're breaking down crying.

 

Aren't they freaked that their pets have just communicated these things?

You know, believe it or not, when they get to that part, they're not even freaked out; they're just so happy that it's in the open and they love Fluffy so much. Fluffy is the only one they ever trusted. They love Fluffy more than any romantic, spousal relationship. Oftentimes, they are, "Oh my gosh!" and sometimes I even have to say to people, "Is this concerning you, I'm sorry, is this freaking you out?" I will actually say it in that slang term -- depending on the age group. Actually to use a real old-fashioned slang term from my generation, it blows my mind that sometimes these people aren't freaked out, because it is very invasive to say to someone, "I'm not tapping into you or I can't see the things that you don't want me to or I'm not using this information wrongly, but Fluffy did tell me about that car accident last year. Now do you want to talk about that?" So they have to have a lot of trust in Fluffy.

 

But how does Fluffy know all this?

What these human beings can never figure out is, "How does Fluffy know I called Aunt Sally last week?" Well, you were on the phone and Fluffy was sitting there on the floor and heard the whole conversation. Why would you think he couldn't hear that?

 

Do animals tell you things that really surprise you?

Absolutely. Around the time of Halloween, I was working up in Erie doing animal communication readings. It was right during the time of all the large fires out West. And the animals were just overcome with this -- they kept on hearing all this information on CNN. This had them all up in arms, because they knew that not just their brothers and sisters in the wild were dying but also that domesticated animals in homes were, too. That was very, very important to them. This is the biggest thing that the animals were telling me: "Have my mom and dad put my name in the will and say what happens to me upon their death or incapacitation. Look, the humans are so into all this paperwork anymore - they have to recognize us as members of the family."

 

It's evident that you take your work very seriously.
I have to be very careful and prudent because like a priest or a nun or any other religious person, I respect my clients' confidentiality and if I work with someone, they're worth dying for. If someone held a gun to my head and said, "So tell us what Fluffy really said," I'd have to take the bullet. Because I'm the channel -- the vehicle -- for the medicine. And if I take the bullet, then I do, but the medicine lives.

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